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Poetic Dialogue Amongst Civilisations : REACH out and "touch" some darkies' hands and make this a "better" WORLD
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if u can!;-(

I am sure there is a song here somewhere?

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For the keen eye, there is an implied "bessmellAho" within my alias. I
try and not repeat myself.
The envoy came and I said 'that Beautiful Jester, what did He Say'?
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'let not Foot stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of the Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of the Journ is count of the Head
Said I 'have reduced my (ac)counting, what regarding this Feeble Corpus
He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, what regarding the Threshold of the Ashes
He Said?
Said 'When the Ash is Cooled it is Swept Away by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept by the Wind, what regarding Ranks on Resurrection
He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but regarding the Conflicts and Demonic what He
Said?'
Said 'Of the conflicts and demonic for The Lovers Shall Be of No
Account!
Said I 'This then is The Goodness! What then of the Heavenly Fount He
Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this be the End, what more Felicituous than this
He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk of 'What else He
Said!'
...
qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara [< Sura Koa'Sar]
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
please translate!?
I hope you did not mind my contributions.
Nice to see you back Joubin.
Saeid
Maybe one day we all will speak the same language!?
lol
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The envoy came and I said 'that Beautiful Jester, what did He Say'?
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'let not Foot stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of the Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of the Journ is count of the Head // (-)
Said I 'have reduced my (ac)counting, what regarding this Feeble Corpus
He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, what regarding the Threshold of the Ashes
He Said?
Said 'When the Ash is Cooled it is Swept Away by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept by the Wind, what regarding Ranks on Resurrection
He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but regarding the Conflicts and Demonic what He
Said?'
Said 'Of the conflicts and demonic for The Lovers Shall Be of No
Account!
Said I 'This then is The Goodness! What then of the Heavenly Fount He
Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated // *~* & ! (interesting)
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this be the End, what more Felicituous than this
He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk of 'What else He
Said!'
...
qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|

51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----

The Judgement

Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.

The Image

Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.





And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----

The Judgement

The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.

The Image

That which is BRight Rises Twice:

The image of Fire.

Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*

(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)

To wit:

55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]

-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----

The 'Judgement'

Abundance has Success

The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~

Be not sad!

Be like the ~!*Sun*!~

at mid-Day!

The 'Image'

Both @@@Thunder@@@ and !!!Lightning!!! come:

The image of Abundance.

Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.

PsychoSpiritual Bi-Polarities (aka "Inner Structure"):

^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~

gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat



v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,

goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt


(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)

Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.

"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage

Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi

108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara

108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar

108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
Saeid
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The Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'? NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count Dust of the Journ is count of the Head // (-)?
Said I Reduced my accounting, what regarding this Feeble Corpus He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, what Regarding the Threshold of Ashes He Said?
Said 'When Ash is Cooled, shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept by the Wind, what Regarding Ranks on Resurrection He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic what He Said?'
Said 'Of the conflicts and demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! What of the Heavenly Fount He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated // *~* & ! (interesting) Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this be the End, what more Felicituous than this He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
I thought of putting some Iambek pentagrams here and there.

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Thanks for the reply. Talk to you soon. and salAm.

xodAfez.

PS: i am still "qahr" with u. U called me a "socialist":-(
;-)
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
Saeid
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The Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'? NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count Dust of the Journ is count of the Head // (-)?
Said I Reduced my accounting, what regarding this Feeble Corpus He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, what Regarding the Threshold of Ashes He Said?
Said 'When Ash is Cooled, shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept by the Wind, what Regarding Ranks on Resurrection He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic what He Said?'
Said 'Of the conflicts and demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! What of the Heavenly Fount He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated // *~* & ! (interesting) Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this be the End, what more Felicituous than this He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
I thought of putting some Iambek pentagrams here and there.
?
Thanks for the reply. Talk to you soon. and salAm.
xodAfez.
PS: i am still "qahr" with u. U called me a "socialist":-(
oh little girl is gahr! I don't know why anyone calls you
socialist? You are one of the most anti social asshole
I have ever come across.
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
Saeid
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The Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What oo Said'? NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, what Regarding the Threshold of Ashes He Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic what He Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! What of the Heavenly Fount He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated // *~* & ! (interesting) Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
I thought of putting some iambic and prochriac pentagrams here and there.
?
please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?

(apart from Joubin of course!)
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
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type: al-Kauthar
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click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
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Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
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Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!


Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He
Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He
Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He
Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?
Post by Joubin Houshyar
qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.

Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan

Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)

[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]

Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"

Then Said
Now repeat after me:

Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.

(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)

For HE IS The ONE

HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
Post by S***@gmail.com
please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?
Post by Joubin Houshyar
qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
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Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
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Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
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Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.
I'd have much more respect for "him" as "it" than "HE"!?

But this is the whole WAR of Matriarch VS Patriarch. God has to be a
hermaphrodite if anything. And judging by what "it" has been saying
"it" does not think much of the "zan sAlAry" of the jews!?

and in the Qoran, it is the angels who keep calling "it" HE and him!?

But also in the qoran, the angels also admit that ultimately "they
know" jack shit! as God is the knower of all things.

also, this verse came to me the other day:

bessmellAho
surat 7. al anfAl or The spoils of war VIII

...

30. And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you, to
imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out; thety were plotting
and allAh is the Best plotter of those who plot.

...

also explain x'30'?? thats my age in hexadecimal btw. other than that
why x'55' and x'30'?
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Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan
Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)
I do not understand what you mean. remember, i am not as sharp as your
good self!
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[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]
Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"
Then Said
Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.
(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)
For HE IS The ONE
HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
why do you insist to assign a gender to god? I know that in arabic and
hebrew, u probably have no choice. but where does it say in Persian
that xodA is a mard?

in any case, oo in persian does not sound as "low" as "it" in english.
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
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Verse Translations
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Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
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Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
Saeid
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Salaam Saeid Jaan,

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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.
then
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I'd have much more respect for "him" as "it" than "HE"!?
But this is the whole WAR of Matriarch VS Patriarch. God has to be a
hermaphrodite if anything. And judging by what "it" has been saying
"it" does not think much of the "zan sAlAry" of the jews!?
The whole point is that it is not an issue of 'gender' in a 'sexual'
sense. Perhaps your god is a 'Herm(es)-AfroDeit(y)' but my LORD does
not lack HIS 'missing' genitals.

Creation is the 'extension' of GOD's 'Conception'.
Children are the 'extension' of the Created's 'Nature'.

God 'inscribes' with HIS Pen on The Tablet.
Man inserts his phalus into the womb and 'marks' the Blue Print.

So

God -> Adam (Adam is an 'extension' of God's Creation -- thru the Word)
Adam - rib -> Eve. (Eve is an 'extension' of Adam's 'Nature'.)
Adam + Eve -> Adam/Eve Jr. [Repeat ad-oo]
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and in the Qoran, it is the angels who keep calling "it" HE and him!?
If you mistrust the Good Sense of Good Angels, then you really have no
business reading that which they Deliver ... waste of time, eh?
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But also in the qoran, the angels also admit that ultimately "they
know" jack shit! as God is the knower of all things.
You do not have the information to make a judgement regarding the
Veracity of the 'appropriate' 'manner' to 'address' "HIM" given the
'limitations' of the Sentient's means of communication.
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bessmellAho
surat 7. al anfAl or The spoils of war VIII
...
30. And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you, to
imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out; thety were plotting
and allAh is the Best plotter of those who plot.
maybe that's why Ali (SAW) kept crying after prayer.
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...
also explain x'30'?? thats my age in hexadecimal btw. other than that
why x'55' and x'30'?
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Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan
Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)
I do not understand what you mean. remember, i am not as sharp as your
good self!
LOL. Zereshk. It was obviously too cryptic.
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[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]
Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"
Then Said
Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.
(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)
For HE IS The ONE
HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
why do you insist to assign a gender to god? I know that in arabic and
hebrew, u probably have no choice. but where does it say in Persian
that xodA is a mard?
It is NOT a gender. That is *your* superficial Reading of The Lecture
... and my use of the word 'HIM'.

Its like the bi-polar thingie ... Thru 'tension' the 'point' expands to
'an ordered space' -- the said 'order' (o/c) reflective of the 'nature'
of the said '.' (Otherwise one remains **a psychological 'ballast' of
the 'collective consciousness'**... nice and steady ;)

Now, Lets review the 'Given' info:

1 - "Our Father"
2 - "Never begat nor Begotten"
3 - The Almighty "KING"
4 - Never Begat Nor Begotten
...

How is that a "She"? So she is out of the question ...

"It"?

I'd call the in-animate and/or insensate Creation 'it'.

"And HE IS Yahweh Shaboat -- The Living GOD ... "

(And how is it more respectful to 'point' to HIM as 'it'?)

After all, if both 'it' and 'she' are *definitely* wrong, then what
else is left but HE?
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in any case, oo in persian does not sound as "low" as "it" in english.
And that is why The Illuminating Lecture was Revealed in ARABIC which
does make these distinctions ...

(so that no Persian mystic would try to pass off a "Hermaphrodite" as
"The Living GOD LORD Of The Sentient Realms The Almighty King" ...?)

/& Salaam
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
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Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
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Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
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Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
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URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.
then
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I'd have much more respect for "him" as "it" than "HE"!?
But this is the whole WAR of Matriarch VS Patriarch. God has to be a
hermaphrodite if anything. And judging by what "it" has been saying
"it" does not think much of the "zan sAlAry" of the jews!?
The whole point is that it is not an issue of 'gender' in a 'sexual'
sense. Perhaps your god is a 'Herm(es)-AfroDeit(y)' but my LORD
Why do you keep doing this "My lord and YOUR lord"?

oo is as much mine as it is yours. (Arabic translation : He is as much
mine as HE is YOURS!////did i say arabic!?> i meant English:)
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does
not lack HIS 'missing' genitals.
Does one who believes... give a shit if god wanted to design his own
Reproductive system?

I'd say not!
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Creation is the 'extension' of GOD's 'Conception'.
Children are the 'extension' of the Created's 'Nature'.
God 'inscribes' with HIS Pen on The Tablet.
Man inserts his phalus into the womb and 'marks' the Blue Print.
thats nice of him.
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So
God -> Adam (Adam is an 'extension' of God's Creation -- thru the Word)
Adam - rib -> Eve. (Eve is an 'extension' of Adam's 'Nature'.)
Adam + Eve -> Adam/Eve Jr. [Repeat ad-oo]
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and in the Qoran, it is the angels who keep calling "it" HE and him!?
If you mistrust the Good Sense of Good Angels,
Actually i mistrust the 19 angels of hell in their daily disguises.....
and i am deadly serious.
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then you really have no
business reading that which they Deliver ... waste of time, eh?
? surely it is my business, if i treat bad angels as they deserve. And
yes I am pisst with him for designing "hell" to such great detail. That
God Takes and active role, to design a management structure for
hell....so that He can fill it up with no believers...and who can blame
the non believers?
not that I am defending "them"
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But also in the qoran, the angels also admit that ultimately "they
know" jack shit! as God is the knower of all things.
You do not have the information to make a judgement regarding the
Veracity of the 'appropriate' 'manner' to 'address' "HIM" given the
'limitations' of the Sentient's means of communication.
sorry!

I try and talk nicely about good angels from now on. Hell/SalAm AqA
jebrAeel......email dAri?
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bessmellAho
surat 7. al anfAl or The spoils of war VIII
...
30. And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you, to
imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out; thety were plotting
and allAh is the Best plotter of those who plot.
maybe that's why Ali (SAW) kept crying after prayer.
Sadly that is not funny. But yA ali!(saws)!
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...
also explain x'30'?? thats my age in hexadecimal btw. other than that
why x'55' and x'30'?
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Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan
Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)
I do not understand what you mean. remember, i am not as sharp as your
good self!
LOL. Zereshk. It was obviously too cryptic.
I am not sure, whether you are asking me to translate the poem or
explain why simon?
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[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]
Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"
Then Said
Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.
(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)
For HE IS The ONE
HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
why do you insist to assign a gender to god? I know that in arabic and
hebrew, u probably have no choice. but where does it say in Persian
that xodA is a mard?
It is NOT a gender. That is *your* superficial Reading of The Lecture
... and my use of the word 'HIM'.
Its like the bi-polar thingie ... Thru 'tension' the 'point' expands to
'an ordered space' -- the said 'order' (o/c) reflective of the 'nature'
of the said '.' (Otherwise one remains **a psychological 'ballast' of
the 'collective consciousness'**... nice and steady ;)
1 - "Our Father"
2 - "Never begat nor Begotten"
3 - The Almighty "KING"
If He is to be anything He would first be the Lord to The Lord of Kings
amogst Kings and ALL queens whom are ever to exist.

u undersell "him"
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4 - Never Begat Nor Begotten
But "oo" shows a preference to "begetting" believers!?
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...
How is that a "She"? So she is out of the question ...
"It"?
I'd call the in-animate and/or insensate Creation 'it'.
There is not a single atom or particle in this entire universe that is
not busy first moving some few hundred thousand kilometers/second
through infinite space.

One can not get more animate, if one tried.

resad Adami be jAyee keh joz xodA nabinad!
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"And HE IS Yahweh Shaboat -- The Living GOD ... "
E=mc^2 is a "living thing".

But i like Mr James Brown's Description: That People are God. U know
James Brown, the God Father of Soul music and funk!;-))
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(And how is it more respectful to 'point' to HIM as 'it'?)
After all, if both 'it' and 'she' are *definitely* wrong, then what
else is left but HE?
I give in at this point. ok ash hado anna lA elAha ellA HIM!
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in any case, oo in persian does not sound as "low" as "it" in english.
And that is why The Illuminating Lecture was Revealed in ARABIC which
does make these distinctions ...
(so that no Persian mystic would try to pass off a "Hermaphrodite" as
"The Living GOD LORD Of The Sentient Realms The Almighty King" ...?
I'd regard "him" as the "anointer" to and of "Kings". It is not
"anyones" place to appoint a "kingdom" to him. Angels and prophets try,
but they know not all about god, as oo (He...if u insist) does not need
additional titles or fucntions.
)
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/& Salaam
I am enjoying this, btw. It is nice to be able to have a conversation
between us at less than "light speed"...like we used to. I've had new
break shoes fitted in my vehicle.

we talk better in slow motion.

And I was not offnended when u called me sheytAn. As saeid koochooloo,
i was called very sheytaan by many. At 16 i was expelled for beating
the shit of almost everyone at Adeeb High School in Tehran. They gave
me "zero" for my enzebAt....which was a "subject" one had to pass. I
had to goh xory in writing, with my mother present, to be re
admitted;-))

i stopped fighting till I went to Azar High school...where i met many
bacheh soosools.

balAnesbat.

good morning, salAm and xodAfez.lol
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
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Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
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Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
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Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
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URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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(Salaam) Again.

Last night I wondered at the city again eyes aimed high and low
wandering aimlessly to and fro. It was neither my intent nor desire to
collect 'letters', much less 'words', to say nothing of 'diagrams'.
But then 'chance' beckoned me on the well-worn path to gaze at the
babes parading themselves behind the display windows. 'Hi there
Tailor, (wink wink;)'.

The cover says 'you can't ignore me' and 'it' is bold with its Orange
and white and oh the lovely Diagrams, and "T Square", and hey, isn't
that Chairman Meow, "Himself"?

Got to go in now and see.

She says -- and yes 'it' was a 'she' though I did not lift her skirt to
verify to the n-Teenth-degree the very ass a T of her garment and 'its'
(dis)closure(s). That is not proper and perhaps even rude, however
much 'she' would enjoy 'it', no doubt, to have 'my close intimate
attention'. In 'Public'.

So. She says -- and yes she and I "spoke direct", like "G-D" to Moses,
so I was sure there was no room for mis-Understandings between she and
I. Nor meddlesome middlemen nor demons and no angels. One on one.

And HE IS Most High Worthy of All Praise LORD of Infinite Grace.
And Salaam be upon him.

("Dearest S" (and "Readers"):

HE HAS Covered ALL bases. (U are wasting your time I say.))

She says "its a book of poetry. Its quite nice". I feigned. Or did
I? For I approached for a taste of the emperor's madness and 'Waves'
and 'Numbers' and here she says "poetry".

Haven't we said enough "poetry"?

Is not Rhyme a crime against Reason?

Apparently not (here*).

The book [*] is called Mad Science in Imperial City.

The 'place' is same and 'Time' has returned 'to Rest' upon 'HIS'
'Throne' on the meridian, root, leaf, in other words, on the beginning
that is the end.

Omega. [< 'that' was v funny btw xiii!]

"What's it all about, Alphaaaa." (seen 'it'?)

Hu knew (?) God was so 'fond' of Congruences and Modular Systems, and
Standing Waves "?!"

"And HIS Throne is Upon The Waves"

So like him I have 'returned' after "six cycles" back to where it all
'started' at the 'end'; to 'Rest' on the 7th 'Day'. To 'Repeat'.

Again. (From the beginning.)

Now I wonder if I am a Fish or do I have a Prey?

And surely I love them, letters words and diagrams, all.

"J Integral". (Love J.) "A's Degenarcy"? (Surely God is Forgiving?
After all, who is A's Maker if not HIM?)

Chairman Moew in a picture. "T Square". (Time Square? Tiananmen
Square?)

Forbidden City.

I open 'her' boldy and 'she' is willing, thanks be to The GOD _my LORD
God my Maker my Friend my Teacher_ for Making things so E Z for me. (I
say "be to" meaning "to be". Brother Z says "Meaning is in usage".

He's right you know.

i am such an ingrate.)

"'dust is also Bhudda'" [2]

So burn your 'bras' 'ladies'. Throw those dictionaries in the flame.
Let it all hang and shake and swing.

u-sage.

Yes.

"Bhudda = no answer" [2]

Write there on page 72, in the middle, 'italicized' so as to make sure
I know 'it' wants me to see 'her'.

Curious. "Dear S: ..." [Ssssssss. Schrodinger? Schopenhaer? So
many 'S's one knows. How strange this '.' that streches and the nodal
'points' of the coherent interferences speaking incoherently to one
another saying 'me' and 'thou'. 'we'. Nonesene. There IS only One
and HE Is Most Gracious.)

Silly (satan)? ("kheilee shey too neh" that "shookhe seemin" ... oy
vey ... how far hast thou fallen o lucifer)

I read and its the same story. Haven't I been here before? Surely
'Chance is irrelevant' and my LORD has arranged 'every single particle
of Dust', so fear not Hansel. And cry not Grettle. Trust I say.

Victory Belongs to The LORD

Just follow the trail.

Back at the counter, now the two of us 'poetry geeks', & I practice
eshveh. Hook line and sinker. E Z P Z. or is that PI?

(3.14...((blahblahblah)

or it 'it'?)

I could get used to this, u know!

- "How is 'it'?"

- "'It' is excellent."

- "He is an engineer."

"A madman" I say (smiling inside (as) appreciation of the author).

"Its an interesting project" she says ('hit' (on) me)

"'spiritual contamination'" I say. [Dear ShanXing my Sign-o Brother:
I Love 'it'.]

And I buy 'her'.

"Fooled again".

"Dear S""?!"

KhodAaHaaFez

/Salaam

~~~

"Today I am sick of all the 'I' in my story, capitalized or not,
because the voice of this 'I', in its futile effort to win its case by
sheer numbers, is chaotic, impotent, equivocal, and contradictory.
Instead I go to other's stories, to hunt the specter of the hidden form
of my story, lurking in the hundred-year-old narrative forest of how to
say 'I'.

"I meet K on each page I read. We unite in words over and over, K and
'I', For example, 'kith' and 'kin', 'drink', 'pick', 'kiss', 'kink',
'kill'. You get the picture of the state of the affair. Together we
are a given in every story. But X is a rare species, X always wears a
dark mist on his face if he appears on the pages at all. As if from
weariness after the long solitary journey across the alphabet table of,
or mistrust of the words. I know X and 'I' joined each other in no
less words. Like 'Xian'. Or 'existence', 'matrix', 'climax',
'anxiety', 'exile', 'extinction', 'Quixote', 'sphinx', X and 'I' stand
side by side in this contextless heap of words. 75% of time. Very
encouraging. Why can't we always show up together in stories? I turn
the page of my math books to look for him, solve for him.

"At 4:30 AM on Monday X phoned me that K had died unexpectedly while
playing his violin in Stockholm. Two days later X fled the city and
secluded himself in a remote monastary.

"I say she when I say K, and he X, or vice versa, as if I am positive
about which should be he and which should be she. But in my speech I
hopelessly misuse 'he' as 'she', and 'she' as 'he'. Because in my
mother tongue both 'she' and 'he' are pronounced at 'ta', with
identical syllable and intonation. Or I have always been confounded by
the similiarities and differences between 'she' and 'he'. For pure
appearance, 'she' is different from 'he' only by a serpant-like letter
S. So 'she' is the 'S'ed 'he' and 'he' is the un'S'ed 'she'. S. The
bond between 'he' and 'she'. The sine wavy suture sewing 'he' and
'she', I ride the surging wave to catch out lost fish and wonder who is
in the air and who is in the water, 'she' or 'he', I glide in both air
and water because their interface has no thickness.

"I write 'S' down in various fonts on the computer of the pages, to
fill the blank spaces of my story. And I find myself walking alone on
the deserted, crooked, willowy pavement, which consists of five
'S'-shaped segments of different lengths but smoothly connected at the
ends, which circumscribes teh quiet man-made lake in the part of the
ancient city, and along which I walked every week with K and X, along
which we talked about the names of the fish jumping out of the water.
Those fish jumping 10 feet above the water. We were so fascinated by
the jumping fish that time and again we wanted to become three big fish
playing with the stagnated water and the ari-saturated with the
fragrance of willows and dewy grasses.

"I stretch, compress, twist 'S' into different proportions, as if
holding a newly discovered character. And I recognize the symbol of
the line integral along the curve 'J' in the 'K-X-I' space.
'J_Integral: PdK + QdX + RdI', which prefectly approximates the
accumlation in my memory of our hundred-time walk. 'J' is hosrt for
'Jiaotong' in my mother tongue, which literally translates into
'traffic', 'communication', and 'transport'. 'J' contracts from
'January' to 'June' qujiety longing for the scibbled scrambled
miraculous spring. 'J' immediately succeeds the seventy handicapped I
en route to K and X. No matter by what route, clockwise or
counterclickwise, no matter what analytical method I try, be it table
of standard integrals, integration by substitution, series expansion,
Simpson's rule, or Guassian quadrature, no matter what software I use,
be it Maple, Mathematica, or Matlab, no matter what programming
language I use, be it Fortran, Basic, or C++, no matter how many times
I carry out calculations, this integral always gives me the same
answer, that is 1980. I realize it depends only on our coordinates in
space and time, fixed in my black memory park, since the path
independence of this integral is guaranteed by the fact that the
integrand is the total differential of the mysterious function 'F', and
this lake of my memory is a simply connected domain and its water is
never ruffled. " [1]


~

"I say. The room. The look on the two dozen stiff faces of the grand
jury in the courtroom of the Supreme Court of Grammar two blocks away
from City Hall made me sick every morning until this day. Those
cocksuckers in the city hall. The consultation room in the mental
institution a month after the catastrophe, where the doctor repeatedly
barked 'which of you needs help' the moment K, X, AND I rolled in
arranged neatly in row. No spirits of dogs survived the terrifying
regularity of campaigns to weed out 'spiritual contamination', and the
freshly whetted stainless steel knives on the hot pottery plates.

"Into the deepest part of the lake Prof. Z waded, under his belt thick
textbooks and lecture notes and ungraded homework full of unanswered
unanswerable abstract algebra questions, muttering 'at least', 'at the
least', 'at the very least', 'Least Squares', and disappeared without a
trace, after an extended conversation with me during his office hours
in the main building for instruction, following the onset of the
short-lived 3rd campaign by the new emperor.

"Only less than four years after the discovery of Z boson at CERN,
which, with a mean life of 3x10^25 second, heaver than an iron atom,
electrically neutral, is its own antiparticles, and is the carrier
particle that mediates the weak force that does not involve charge and
flavor changes via a neutral current, leaving interacting particles
unaffected, except a transfer of momentum.

"Concrete, I howled to the desert wind. Dust rained down far faster,
denser, smarter, and more incomprehensible than the automatic rifle
bullets in the capital. The moon ridiculed me; they valley shivered,
with little emotion. Smart dust motes of the size of a grain of sand
contain sensors, computational capability, bidirectional wireless
communication, and a power supply, and are inexpensive enough to be
deployed by tens of millions. The torn pages fluttered to the north,
leaving the atomized cities behind. The deranged caravan of a million
sacked assumptions staggered to the south, skirting pulverized
villages. Smart dust motes with applications in weather/seismological
monitoring, chemical/biological sensors, weapons stockpile monitoring,
and defense-related sensor networks. Is smart dust startdust carrying
messages from Mars?

"The headset of my portable radio repeated again and again

"'dust is also Buddha'

"The ground war is declared over but not the dust. The order is
collected but not the dust. He said, 'How many have you counted. How
did they fall?' Dust rises in spirals, airborne, everywhere.

"Buddha = no answer

"Say something? Will you say something?

"In the distance unfolds the demise of that Silicon Valley, Driven by
Schrodinger's cat, Schopenhauer's will, and Siddhartha's belly. In the
distance beckons the embryo of quantum computing to crack encrypted
messages in the dust.

'Dear S:

Are you the secret agents for the operation oil change
distributed at every gas station in Death Valley
or of the spreading disease claiming thousands of camel's lives
or from the inferior States for classified information of
anthrax-based bio-weapons or from the publishing amalgemation
running to full capacity continually turning out brand-new
books of paper bills and metal coins with discrete face values
which fill the forbidden band gaps in the capital crystal
where no free electrons are ever permitted?'" [2]


~

"Three billion eggs come and go every month. I am not cooking them all
up. Pairs of quarks and anti-quarks wink in and out of existence
constantly in Geneva. Every second hundreds of billions of nutrinos
stream through our bodies screeming 'thou' 'thou', never heard never
felt. Bitstreams of '0's and '1's power through networks of undersea
optical fibers at tetrahertz frequency, never forming the identity
matrix 'I'. The sweating heads rub off each other in job fairs at the
Saint clara Convention Center for a vacancy in dotcoms. Words arrive
in triangles and squares and leave in circles without any lasting
registration in the brain. However my wounds just stay. They never
came. I never let them go. My abstract wounds with no definite shapes
and locations. [3]


--

[*] "Mad Science In Imperial City", by ShanXing Wang, Futurepoem Books,
NYC 2005, Copyright (c) 2005 Shanxing Wang [ISBN: 0-9716800-5-1]

[1] ibid, J Integral, page nineTeen, +1.

[2] ibid, A's Degeneracy, "TO HOW WRITE WRITE", pp 71-73

[3] ibid, ibid, "TO WRITE HOW HOW", pp 96-97


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Abdhul Zaahir Baatin!
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Salaam Saeid Jaan,
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.
then
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I'd have much more respect for "him" as "it" than "HE"!?
But this is the whole WAR of Matriarch VS Patriarch. God has to be a
hermaphrodite if anything. And judging by what "it" has been saying
"it" does not think much of the "zan sAlAry" of the jews!?
The whole point is that it is not an issue of 'gender' in a 'sexual'
sense. Perhaps your god is a 'Herm(es)-AfroDeit(y)' but my LORD
Why do you keep doing this "My lord and YOUR lord"?
oo is as much mine as it is yours. (Arabic translation : He is as much
mine as HE is YOURS!////did i say arabic!?> i meant English:)
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does
not lack HIS 'missing' genitals.
Does one who believes... give a shit if god wanted to design his own
Reproductive system?
I'd say not!
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Creation is the 'extension' of GOD's 'Conception'.
Children are the 'extension' of the Created's 'Nature'.
God 'inscribes' with HIS Pen on The Tablet.
Man inserts his phalus into the womb and 'marks' the Blue Print.
thats nice of him.
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So
God -> Adam (Adam is an 'extension' of God's Creation -- thru the Word)
Adam - rib -> Eve. (Eve is an 'extension' of Adam's 'Nature'.)
Adam + Eve -> Adam/Eve Jr. [Repeat ad-oo]
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and in the Qoran, it is the angels who keep calling "it" HE and him!?
If you mistrust the Good Sense of Good Angels,
Actually i mistrust the 19 angels of hell in their daily disguises.....
and i am deadly serious.
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then you really have no
business reading that which they Deliver ... waste of time, eh?
? surely it is my business, if i treat bad angels as they deserve. And
yes I am pisst with him for designing "hell" to such great detail. That
God Takes and active role, to design a management structure for
hell....so that He can fill it up with no believers...and who can blame
the non believers?
not that I am defending "them"
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But also in the qoran, the angels also admit that ultimately "they
know" jack shit! as God is the knower of all things.
You do not have the information to make a judgement regarding the
Veracity of the 'appropriate' 'manner' to 'address' "HIM" given the
'limitations' of the Sentient's means of communication.
sorry!
I try and talk nicely about good angels from now on. Hell/SalAm AqA
jebrAeel......email dAri?
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bessmellAho
surat 7. al anfAl or The spoils of war VIII
...
30. And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you, to
imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out; thety were plotting
and allAh is the Best plotter of those who plot.
maybe that's why Ali (SAW) kept crying after prayer.
Sadly that is not funny. But yA ali!(saws)!
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...
also explain x'30'?? thats my age in hexadecimal btw. other than that
why x'55' and x'30'?
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Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan
Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)
I do not understand what you mean. remember, i am not as sharp as your
good self!
LOL. Zereshk. It was obviously too cryptic.
I am not sure, whether you are asking me to translate the poem or
explain why simon?
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[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]
Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"
Then Said
Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.
(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)
For HE IS The ONE
HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
why do you insist to assign a gender to god? I know that in arabic and
hebrew, u probably have no choice. but where does it say in Persian
that xodA is a mard?
It is NOT a gender. That is *your* superficial Reading of The Lecture
... and my use of the word 'HIM'.
Its like the bi-polar thingie ... Thru 'tension' the 'point' expands to
'an ordered space' -- the said 'order' (o/c) reflective of the 'nature'
of the said '.' (Otherwise one remains **a psychological 'ballast' of
the 'collective consciousness'**... nice and steady ;)
1 - "Our Father"
2 - "Never begat nor Begotten"
3 - The Almighty "KING"
If He is to be anything He would first be the Lord to The Lord of Kings
amogst Kings and ALL queens whom are ever to exist.
u undersell "him"
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4 - Never Begat Nor Begotten
But "oo" shows a preference to "begetting" believers!?
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...
How is that a "She"? So she is out of the question ...
"It"?
I'd call the in-animate and/or insensate Creation 'it'.
There is not a single atom or particle in this entire universe that is
not busy first moving some few hundred thousand kilometers/second
through infinite space.
One can not get more animate, if one tried.
resad Adami be jAyee keh joz xodA nabinad!
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"And HE IS Yahweh Shaboat -- The Living GOD ... "
E=mc^2 is a "living thing".
But i like Mr James Brown's Description: That People are God. U know
James Brown, the God Father of Soul music and funk!;-))
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(And how is it more respectful to 'point' to HIM as 'it'?)
After all, if both 'it' and 'she' are *definitely* wrong, then what
else is left but HE?
I give in at this point. ok ash hado anna lA elAha ellA HIM!
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in any case, oo in persian does not sound as "low" as "it" in english.
And that is why The Illuminating Lecture was Revealed in ARABIC which
does make these distinctions ...
(so that no Persian mystic would try to pass off a "Hermaphrodite" as
"The Living GOD LORD Of The Sentient Realms The Almighty King" ...?
I'd regard "him" as the "anointer" to and of "Kings". It is not
"anyones" place to appoint a "kingdom" to him. Angels and prophets try,
but they know not all about god, as oo (He...if u insist) does not need
additional titles or fucntions.
)
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/& Salaam
I am enjoying this, btw. It is nice to be able to have a conversation
between us at less than "light speed"...like we used to. I've had new
break shoes fitted in my vehicle.
we talk better in slow motion.
And I was not offnended when u called me sheytAn. As saeid koochooloo,
i was called very sheytaan by many. At 16 i was expelled for beating
the shit of almost everyone at Adeeb High School in Tehran. They gave
me "zero" for my enzebAt....which was a "subject" one had to pass. I
had to goh xory in writing, with my mother present, to be re
admitted;-))
i stopped fighting till I went to Azar High school...where i met many
bacheh soosools.
balAnesbat.
good morning, salAm and xodAfez.lol
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
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Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
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Post by Joubin Houshyar
(Salaam) Again.
Last night I wondered at the city again eyes aimed high and low
wandering aimlessly to and fro. It was neither my intent nor desire to
collect 'letters', much less 'words', to say nothing of 'diagrams'.
But then 'chance' beckoned me on the well-worn path to gaze at the
babes parading themselves behind the display windows. 'Hi there
Tailor, (wink wink;)'.
The cover says 'you can't ignore me' and 'it' is bold with its Orange
and white and oh the lovely Diagrams, and "T Square", and hey, isn't
that Chairman Meow, "Himself"?
Got to go in now and see.
She says -- and yes 'it' was a 'she' though I did not lift her skirt to
verify to the n-Teenth-degree the very ass a T of her garment and 'its'
(dis)closure(s). That is not proper and perhaps even rude, however
much 'she' would enjoy 'it', no doubt, to have 'my close intimate
attention'. In 'Public'.
So. She says -- and yes she and I "spoke direct", like "G-D" to Moses,
so I was sure there was no room for mis-Understandings between she and
I. Nor meddlesome middlemen nor demons and no angels. One on one.
And HE IS Most High Worthy of All Praise LORD of Infinite Grace.
And Salaam be upon him.
HE HAS Covered ALL bases. (U are wasting your time I say.))
W W W . WoW!;-)) (chairman MeoW:)
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She says
This is from an email J sent me:
1. Men are like ..... .. Laxatives ...... They irritate the sh*t out of
you.
2. Men are like ..... . Bananas ...... The older they get, the less
firm they are.
3. Men are like ....... Weather ..... Nothing can be done to change
them.
4. Men are like ....... Blenders ... You need One, but you're not quite
sure why.
5. Men are like ....... Chocolate Bars . Sweet, smooth, & they usually
head right for your hips.
6. Men are like .... Commercials ...... You can't believe a word they
say.
7. Men are like .. Department Stores .! Their clothes are always 1/2
off.
8. Men are like ....... Government Bonds . .... They take soooooooo
long to mature.
9. Men are like ....... Mascara ....... They usually run at the first
sign of emotion.
10. Men are like ........ Popcorn ..... ?They satisfy you, but only for
a little while.
11. Men are like .... ? Snowstorms ... You never know when they're
coming, how many inches you'll get or how long it will last.
12. Men are like ........ Lava Lamps . Fun to look at, but not very
bright.
13. Men are like P arking Spots ........ All the good ones are taken,
the rest are handicapped.

Now send this to all the remarkable women you know, as well as to any
understanding good-natured, fun kinda guys you might be lucky enough to
know !!!!!!!!!! ?
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"its a book of poetry. Its quite nice". I feigned. Or did
I? For I approached for a taste of the emperor's madness and 'Waves'
and 'Numbers' and here she says "poetry".
Haven't we said enough "poetry"?
Is not Rhyme a crime against Reason?
Apparently not (here*).
The book [*] is called Mad Science in Imperial City.
The 'place' is same and 'Time' has returned 'to Rest' upon 'HIS'
'Throne' on the meridian, root, leaf, in other words, on the beginning
that is the end.
Omega. [< 'that' was v funny btw xiii!]
;-)
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"What's it all about, Alphaaaa." (seen 'it'?)
Hu knew (?) God was so 'fond' of Congruences and Modular Systems, and
Standing Waves "?!"
"And HIS Throne is Upon The Waves"
So like him I have 'returned' after "six cycles" back to where it all
'started' at the 'end'; to 'Rest' on the 7th 'Day'. To 'Repeat'.
Again. (From the beginning.)
Now I wonder if I am a Fish or do I have a Prey?
And surely I love them, letters words and diagrams, all.
"J Integral". (Love J.) "A's Degenarcy"? (Surely God is Forgiving?
After all, who is A's Maker if not HIM?)
Chairman Moew in a picture. "T Square". (Time Square? Tiananmen
Square?)
Forbidden City.
I open 'her' boldy and 'she' is willing, thanks be to The GOD _my LORD
God my Maker my Friend my Teacher_ for Making things so E Z for me. (I
say "be to" meaning "to be". Brother Z says "Meaning is in usage".
He's right you know.
i am such an ingrate.)
"'dust is also Bhudda'" [2]
So burn your 'bras' 'ladies'. Throw those dictionaries in the flame.
Let it all hang and shake and swing.
u-sage.
Yes.
"Bhudda = no answer" [2]
Write there on page 72, in the middle, 'italicized' so as to make sure
I know 'it' wants me to see 'her'.
Curious. "Dear S: ..." [Ssssssss. Schrodinger? Schopenhaer? So
many 'S's one knows. How strange this '.' that streches and the nodal
'points' of the coherent interferences speaking incoherently to one
another saying 'me' and 'thou'. 'we'. Nonesene. There IS only One
and HE Is Most Gracious.)
Silly (satan)? ("kheilee shey too neh" that "shookhe seemin" ... oy
vey ... how far hast thou fallen o lucifer)
I read and its the same story. Haven't I been here before? Surely
'Chance is irrelevant' and my LORD has arranged 'every single particle
of Dust', so fear not Hansel. And cry not Grettle. Trust I say.
Victory Belongs to The LORD
Just follow the trail.
Back at the counter, now the two of us 'poetry geeks', & I practice
eshveh. Hook line and sinker. E Z P Z. or is that PI?
(3.14...((blahblahblah)
or it 'it'?)
I could get used to this, u know!
- "How is 'it'?"
- "'It' is excellent."
- "He is an engineer."
"A madman" I say (smiling inside (as) appreciation of the author).
"Its an interesting project" she says ('hit' (on) me)
I Love 'it'.]
And I buy 'her'.
"Fooled again".
"Dear S""?!"
KhodAaHaaFez
cheers. xodA hAfezeh u too!
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/Salaam
~~~
"Today I am sick of all the 'I' in my story, capitalized or not,
because the voice of this 'I', in its futile effort to win its case by
sheer numbers, is chaotic, impotent, equivocal, and contradictory.
Instead I go to other's stories, to hunt the specter of the hidden form
of my story, lurking in the hundred-year-old narrative forest of how to
say 'I'.
thanks for the "heads up".
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"I meet K on each page I read. We unite in words over and over, K and
'I', For example, 'kith' and 'kin', 'drink', 'pick', 'kiss', 'kink',
'kill'. You get the picture of the state of the affair. Together we
are a given in every story. But X is a rare species, X always wears a
dark mist on his face if he appears on the pages at all. As if from
weariness after the long solitary journey across the alphabet table of,
or mistrust of the words. I know X and 'I' joined each other in no
less words. Like 'Xian'. Or 'existence', 'matrix', 'climax',
'anxiety', 'exile', 'extinction', 'Quixote', 'sphinx', X and 'I' stand
side by side in this contextless heap of words. 75% of time. Very
encouraging. Why can't we always show up together in stories? I turn
the page of my math books to look for him, solve for him.
"At 4:30 AM on Monday X phoned me that K had died unexpectedly while
playing his violin in Stockholm. Two days later X fled the city and
secluded himself in a remote monastary.
"I say she when I say K, and he X, or vice versa, as if I am positive
about which should be he and which should be she. But in my speech I
hopelessly misuse 'he' as 'she', and 'she' as 'he'. Because in my
mother tongue both 'she' and 'he' are pronounced at 'ta', with
identical syllable and intonation. Or I have always been confounded by
the similiarities and differences between 'she' and 'he'. For pure
appearance, 'she' is different from 'he' only by a serpant-like letter
S. So 'she' is the 'S'ed 'he' and 'he' is the un'S'ed 'she'. S. The
bond between 'he' and 'she'. The sine wavy suture sewing 'he' and
'she', I ride the surging wave to catch out lost fish and wonder who is
in the air and who is in the water, 'she' or 'he', I glide in both air
and water because their interface has no thickness.
"I write 'S' down in various fonts on the computer of the pages, to
fill the blank spaces of my story. And I find myself walking alone on
the deserted, crooked, willowy pavement, which consists of five
'S'-shaped segments of different lengths but smoothly connected at the
ends, which circumscribes teh quiet man-made lake in the part of the
ancient city, and along which I walked every week with K and X, along
which we talked about the names of the fish jumping out of the water.
Those fish jumping 10 feet above the water. We were so fascinated by
the jumping fish that time and again we wanted to become three big fish
playing with the stagnated water and the ari-saturated with the
fragrance of willows and dewy grasses.
"I stretch, compress, twist 'S' into different proportions, as if
holding a newly discovered character. And I recognize the symbol of
the line integral along the curve 'J' in the 'K-X-I' space.
'J_Integral: PdK + QdX + RdI', which prefectly approximates the
accumlation in my memory of our hundred-time walk. 'J' is hosrt for
'Jiaotong' in my mother tongue, which literally translates into
'traffic', 'communication', and 'transport'. 'J' contracts from
'January' to 'June' qujiety longing for the scibbled scrambled
miraculous spring. 'J' immediately succeeds the seventy handicapped I
en route to K and X. No matter by what route, clockwise or
counterclickwise, no matter what analytical method I try, be it table
of standard integrals, integration by substitution, series expansion,
Simpson's rule, or Guassian quadrature, no matter what software I use,
be it Maple, Mathematica, or Matlab, no matter what programming
language I use, be it Fortran, Basic, or C++, no matter how many times
I carry out calculations, this integral always gives me the same
answer, that is 1980. I realize it depends only on our coordinates in
space and time, fixed in my black memory park, since the path
independence of this integral is guaranteed by the fact that the
integrand is the total differential of the mysterious function 'F', and
this lake of my memory is a simply connected domain and its water is
never ruffled. " [1]
~
"I say. The room. The look on the two dozen stiff faces of the grand
jury in the courtroom of the Supreme Court of Grammar two blocks away
from City Hall made me sick every morning until this day. Those
cocksuckers in the city hall. The consultation room in the mental
institution a month after the catastrophe, where the doctor repeatedly
barked 'which of you needs help' the moment K, X, AND I rolled in
arranged neatly in row. No spirits of dogs survived the terrifying
regularity of campaigns to weed out 'spiritual contamination', and the
freshly whetted stainless steel knives on the hot pottery plates.
"Into the deepest part of the lake Prof. Z waded, under his belt thick
textbooks and lecture notes and ungraded homework full of unanswered
unanswerable abstract algebra questions, muttering 'at least', 'at the
least', 'at the very least', 'Least Squares', and disappeared without a
trace, after an extended conversation with me during his office hours
in the main building for instruction, following the onset of the
short-lived 3rd campaign by the new emperor.
"Only less than four years after the discovery of Z boson at CERN,
which, with a mean life of 3x10^25 second, heaver than an iron atom,
electrically neutral, is its own antiparticles, and is the carrier
particle that mediates the weak force that does not involve charge and
flavor changes via a neutral current, leaving interacting particles
unaffected, except a transfer of momentum.
"Concrete, I howled to the desert wind. Dust rained down far faster,
denser, smarter, and more incomprehensible than the automatic rifle
bullets in the capital. The moon ridiculed me; they valley shivered,
with little emotion. Smart dust motes of the size of a grain of sand
contain sensors, computational capability, bidirectional wireless
communication, and a power supply, and are inexpensive enough to be
deployed by tens of millions. The torn pages fluttered to the north,
leaving the atomized cities behind. The deranged caravan of a million
sacked assumptions staggered to the south, skirting pulverized
villages. Smart dust motes with applications in weather/seismological
monitoring, chemical/biological sensors, weapons stockpile monitoring,
and defense-related sensor networks. Is smart dust startdust carrying
messages from Mars?
"The headset of my portable radio repeated again and again
"'dust is also Buddha'
"The ground war is declared over but not the dust. The order is
collected but not the dust. He said, 'How many have you counted. How
did they fall?' Dust rises in spirals, airborne, everywhere.
"Buddha = no answer
"Say something? Will you say something?
"In the distance unfolds the demise of that Silicon Valley, Driven by
Schrodinger's cat, Schopenhauer's will, and Siddhartha's belly. In the
distance beckons the embryo of quantum computing to crack encrypted
messages in the dust.
Are you the secret agents for the operation oil change
distributed at every gas station in Death Valley
or of the spreading disease claiming thousands of camel's lives
or from the inferior States for classified information of
anthrax-based bio-weapons or from the publishing amalgemation
running to full capacity continually turning out brand-new
books of paper bills and metal coins with discrete face values
which fill the forbidden band gaps in the capital crystal
not sure!?
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where no free electrons are ever permitted?'" [2]
In after life maybe. But currently I live in a place, where electrons
roam "mainly" freely; before they are captured and turned into "ASCII"
characters! and are magnetically "recorded"....now I am not sure again!
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~
"Three billion eggs come and go every month. I am not cooking them all
up. Pairs of quarks and anti-quarks wink in and out of existence
constantly in Geneva. Every second hundreds of billions of nutrinos
stream through our bodies screeming 'thou' 'thou', never heard never
felt. Bitstreams of '0's and '1's power through networks of undersea
optical fibers at tetrahertz frequency, never forming the identity
matrix 'I'. The sweating heads rub off each other in job fairs at the
Saint clara Convention Center for a vacancy in dotcoms. Words arrive
in triangles and squares and leave in circles without any lasting
registration in the brain. However my wounds just stay. They never
came. I never let them go. My abstract wounds with no definite shapes
and locations. [3]
--
[*] "Mad Science In Imperial City", by ShanXing Wang, Futurepoem Books,
NYC 2005, Copyright (c) 2005 Shanxing Wang [ISBN: 0-9716800-5-1]
[1] ibid, J Integral, page nineTeen, +1.
[2] ibid, A's Degeneracy, "TO HOW WRITE WRITE", pp 71-73
[3] ibid, ibid, "TO WRITE HOW HOW", pp 96-97
Did I tell you about my new "Brake shoes"?
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variable not yet Seen.
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qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
goft bA hejram besAzad, goftamash digar che goft?
goft pAy'e xeesh az andAz'e nagzArd brun
goftamash jam'ast az pA xAteram, az sar che goft?
goft sar rA bAyad az xAk'e rah kamtar shemord
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
goftamash man sooxtam, dar bAb'e xAkestar che goft?
goft xAkestar chu gardad xAm hamash bar bAd dAd
goftamash bar bAd raftam, az saf'e ma'ashar che goft?
goft dar ma'ashar be yek dam zende ash xAheem kard
goftamash man zend'e gardidam, ze shoor'o sharr che goft?
goft shoor'o shar rA nabAshad AsheqAn rA dar hesAb
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
goftamash chun Aqebat inast, azin xoshtar che goft?
goft Axar nagzarad az xAteram yAd'e azeem
goftamash digar begoo goftA, digar magoo digar che goft!
Envoy Came and Said I 'that Beautiful Jester, What He Said'?
NB: there is no gender in the original so He/She/it=oo
God is not an 'it', nor is HE a 'She'.
then
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I'd have much more respect for "him" as "it" than "HE"!?
But this is the whole WAR of Matriarch VS Patriarch. God has to be a
hermaphrodite if anything. And judging by what "it" has been saying
"it" does not think much of the "zan sAlAry" of the jews!?
The whole point is that it is not an issue of 'gender' in a 'sexual'
sense. Perhaps your god is a 'Herm(es)-AfroDeit(y)' but my LORD
Why do you keep doing this "My lord and YOUR lord"?
oo is as much mine as it is yours. (Arabic translation : He is as much
mine as HE is YOURS!////did i say arabic!?> i meant English:)
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does
not lack HIS 'missing' genitals.
Does one who believes... give a shit if god wanted to design his own
Reproductive system?
I'd say not!
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Creation is the 'extension' of GOD's 'Conception'.
Children are the 'extension' of the Created's 'Nature'.
God 'inscribes' with HIS Pen on The Tablet.
Man inserts his phalus into the womb and 'marks' the Blue Print.
thats nice of him.
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So
God -> Adam (Adam is an 'extension' of God's Creation -- thru the Word)
Adam - rib -> Eve. (Eve is an 'extension' of Adam's 'Nature'.)
Adam + Eve -> Adam/Eve Jr. [Repeat ad-oo]
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and in the Qoran, it is the angels who keep calling "it" HE and him!?
If you mistrust the Good Sense of Good Angels,
Actually i mistrust the 19 angels of hell in their daily disguises.....
and i am deadly serious.
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then you really have no
business reading that which they Deliver ... waste of time, eh?
? surely it is my business, if i treat bad angels as they deserve. And
yes I am pisst with him for designing "hell" to such great detail. That
God Takes and active role, to design a management structure for
hell....so that He can fill it up with no believers...and who can blame
the non believers?
not that I am defending "them"
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But also in the qoran, the angels also admit that ultimately "they
know" jack shit! as God is the knower of all things.
You do not have the information to make a judgement regarding the
Veracity of the 'appropriate' 'manner' to 'address' "HIM" given the
'limitations' of the Sentient's means of communication.
sorry!
I try and talk nicely about good angels from now on. Hell/SalAm AqA
jebrAeel......email dAri?
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bessmellAho
surat 7. al anfAl or The spoils of war VIII
...
30. And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you, to
imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out; thety were plotting
and allAh is the Best plotter of those who plot.
maybe that's why Ali (SAW) kept crying after prayer.
Sadly that is not funny. But yA ali!(saws)!
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...
also explain x'30'?? thats my age in hexadecimal btw. other than that
why x'55' and x'30'?
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Saaghi beh mastaan beh avarad va beh cheshmak may baraan
Goft zood baasheed keh be zoodie khaaheem bast een daraan
Goft yek faghireh alem be darvisheh khosh dahaan
Oo cheh goft deegeh keh man mast boodam dar alaan
Please translate Simon!? ("NB: ..." < Reconsider Saeid Jaan.)
I do not understand what you mean. remember, i am not as sharp as your
good self!
LOL. Zereshk. It was obviously too cryptic.
I am not sure, whether you are asking me to translate the poem or
explain why simon?
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[Proof: (re 'extensions' of 'Conception' and 'Nature')
God -{word}-> Creation/Adam
Adam-{bone}->Joft/Eve
Adam/Joft -{cell}->Vali/Son [and repeat ad oo ..]]
Now He Said "God Is a Spirit"
Then Said
Our Father who Art in Heaven
Hallowed be Thine Name
Thine Kingdom Come
Thine Will Be Done here on *Earth* Even as it IS In Heavens
Give us this Day our daily Bread
And Forgive our *Sins* Even as we forgive ALL those indebted to us
And Lead us not into Trials But Deliver us from evil
For THINE IS The Kingdom And The Power and The Glory Forever.
(Now say) AaaaMeen (-it)
For HE IS The ONE
HE Has no Peers Nor partners
Never Begat Nor begotten
HE IS The Before-the-Begining and After-the-End
& Far Exalted IS HE above that which some associate to HIM!
why do you insist to assign a gender to god? I know that in arabic and
hebrew, u probably have no choice. but where does it say in Persian
that xodA is a mard?
It is NOT a gender. That is *your* superficial Reading of The Lecture
... and my use of the word 'HIM'.
Its like the bi-polar thingie ... Thru 'tension' the 'point' expands to
'an ordered space' -- the said 'order' (o/c) reflective of the 'nature'
of the said '.' (Otherwise one remains **a psychological 'ballast' of
the 'collective consciousness'**... nice and steady ;)
1 - "Our Father"
2 - "Never begat nor Begotten"
3 - The Almighty "KING"
If He is to be anything He would first be the Lord to The Lord of Kings
amogst Kings and ALL queens whom are ever to exist.
u undersell "him"
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4 - Never Begat Nor Begotten
But "oo" shows a preference to "begetting" believers!?
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...
How is that a "She"? So she is out of the question ...
"It"?
I'd call the in-animate and/or insensate Creation 'it'.
There is not a single atom or particle in this entire universe that is
not busy first moving some few hundred thousand kilometers/second
through infinite space.
One can not get more animate, if one tried.
resad Adami be jAyee keh joz xodA nabinad!
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"And HE IS Yahweh Shaboat -- The Living GOD ... "
E=mc^2 is a "living thing".
But i like Mr James Brown's Description: That People are God. U know
James Brown, the God Father of Soul music and funk!;-))
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(And how is it more respectful to 'point' to HIM as 'it'?)
After all, if both 'it' and 'she' are *definitely* wrong, then what
else is left but HE?
I give in at this point. ok ash hado anna lA elAha ellA HIM!
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in any case, oo in persian does not sound as "low" as "it" in english.
And that is why The Illuminating Lecture was Revealed in ARABIC which
does make these distinctions ...
(so that no Persian mystic would try to pass off a "Hermaphrodite" as
"The Living GOD LORD Of The Sentient Realms The Almighty King" ...?
I'd regard "him" as the "anointer" to and of "Kings". It is not
"anyones" place to appoint a "kingdom" to him. Angels and prophets try,
but they know not all about god, as oo (He...if u insist) does not need
additional titles or fucntions.
)
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/& Salaam
I am enjoying this, btw. It is nice to be able to have a conversation
between us at less than "light speed"...like we used to. I've had new
break shoes fitted in my vehicle.
we talk better in slow motion.
And I was not offnended when u called me sheytAn. As saeid koochooloo,
i was called very sheytaan by many. At 16 i was expelled for beating
the shit of almost everyone at Adeeb High School in Tehran. They gave
me "zero" for my enzebAt....which was a "subject" one had to pass. I
had to goh xory in writing, with my mother present, to be re
admitted;-))
i stopped fighting till I went to Azar High school...where i met many
bacheh soosools.
balAnesbat.
good morning, salAm and xodAfez.lol
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Said 'Make do with my Seperation', Said I 'What else He Said'?
Said 'Let Not Foot Stray beyond Measure' !
Said I'm Mindful of Foot, Regarding Head What He Said?
Said Keeping count of Dust of Journ is to Count The Head
Said I Reduced my accounting, Regarding this Feeble Corpus What He
Said?
Said 'his Lean Grossness We Shall Burn with the Fever's Heat'
Said I 'have Burned indeed, Regarding the Threshold of Ashes What He
Said?
Said 'Cooled Ash Shall be Swept by the Wind'
Said I'm Swept (by the Wind), Regarding Ranks on Resurrection What He
Said?
Said 'On Ressurection Day We Shall Revive him in an instance'
Said I'm Revived, but Regarding the Conflicts and Demonic What He
Said?'
Said 'Of the Conflicts and Demonic for Lovers Shall Be of No Account!
Said I 'This then Be The Goodness! Of the Heavenly Fount What He Said?
Said 'With *US* by the Heavenly Fount Shall oo be Seated
Forever/In-The-End'
Said I, 'if then this Be the End, More Felicituous than this What He
Said?
Said '(My Lover) Azeem's Memory Shall never Leave Me!'
Said I 'Do tell more!' Said 'Now Cease talk' of 'What else He Said!'
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please feel free to advise on english translation. Are any english
language poets "here" in these culture groups?
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qol huwallAho ahad
allAho samad
lam yaled wa lam yolad
wa lam yakenlahoo kofhovan ahad>
Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheem
Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
From Above Comes Thunder > Revelation, Admonishment, Shock/Laughter
qAsed Amad, goftamsh An shoox'e seemin bar che goft?
|OR|
51. Chên - The Arousing (Shock, Thunder)
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-- --
-- -- below Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
The Judgement
Shock brings success.
Shock comes-oh, oh!
Laughing words-ha, ha!
The shock terrifies for a hundred miles,
And he does not let fall the sacrificial spoon and chalice.
The Image
Thunder repeated: the image of Shock.
Thus in fear and trembling
The superior man sets his life in order
And examines himself.
And Below Is Fire > The 'path'/'Lot'/'Life Portion' of ~!*The
phoenix*!~
"goftamash man sooxtam"
|OR|
30. Li - The Clinging, Fire [~FIRE BIRD~]
-----
-- -- above Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.
The Image
The image of Fire.
Thus the Great Man, by perpetuating this BRightness,
~Illuminates~ the four quarters of *the World*
(aka To'loo'e AafTaab)
55. Fêng - Abundance [Koa'Sar]
-- --
-- -- above Chên The Arousing, Thunder
-----
-----
-- -- below Li The Clinging, Flame
-----
The 'Judgement'
Abundance has Success
The ~!*King*!~ attains ~!!Abundance!!~
Be not sad!
Be like the ~!*Sun*!~
at mid-Day!
The 'Image'
The image of Abundance.
Thus the Superior Man decides Lawsuits
And carries out Punishments.
^ (Aspiration)
-- -- Higher Pole Lake, ~!! KAAS/KOS/CUP !!~, ~Joy~,
O+,
----- (Labeh Koa'sar)
----- _Containment_ of ~Water~/~May~
gotamash inast eHsAn, az lab'e kossar che goft?
goft bA mA dar lab'e kossar nesheenad Aqebat
v (Condition)
-----
----- (Jesme Laaghar) *Green Created* Seeking ~Higher
Light~
-- -- Lower Pole Wood, ~ZENDEH~, O+,
goftamash kamtar shemordam, zin tan'e lAqar che goft?
goft jesm'e lAqarash rA az ta'ab xAheem sooxt
(see hex 22 -delta-> hex 55 for a Decreed Transition leading to 55)
(also note inner condition of 30 = inner condition of 55)
Now See Isaiah 55
Now See Sura 55
Now Say 5 by one and one.
"Come and Drink!"
"Which of the Favors of your LORD u 2 deny?"
please translate!?
http://www.quranbrowser.com/
type: al-Kauthar
click: Select All
click: Get Passage
Verse Translations
108:000
*
Pickthall In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Yusuf Ali In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Shakir "The Abundance of Good" In the name of Allah, the Beneficent,
the Merciful.
Sher Ali In the name of ALLAH, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Khalifa In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Arberry CVIII Abundance. In the Name of God, the Merciful, the
Compassionate
Palmer THE CHAPTER OF EL KAUTHAR (CVIII. Mecca.) IN the name of the
merciful and compassionate God.
Rodwell In the Name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Sale Al Cawthar
Transliterated Arabic 108. al-Kauthar (Abundance) : Bismi Allahi
alrrahmani alrraheemi
108:001
*
Pickthall Lo! We have given thee Abundance;
Yusuf Ali To thee have We granted the Fount (of Abundance).
Shakir Surely We have given you Kausar,
Sher Ali Surely, We have bestowed upon thee abundance of good;
Khalifa We have blessed you with many a bounty.
Arberry Surely We have given thee abundance;
Palmer Verily, we have given thee El Kauthar;
Rodwell TRULY we have given thee an ABUNDANCE;
Sale Verily we have given thee al Cawthar.
Transliterated Arabic Inna aAAtaynaka alkawthara
108:002
*
Pickthall So pray unto thy Lord, and sacrifice.
Yusuf Ali Therefore to thy Lord turn in Prayer and Sacrifice.
Shakir Therefore pray to your Lord and make a sacrifice.
Sher Ali So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
Khalifa Therefore, you shall pray to your Lord (Salat), and give to
charity.
Arberry so pray unto thy Lord and sacrifice.
Palmer So pray to thy Lord and slaughter (victims).
Rodwell Pray therefore to the Lord, and slay the victims.
Sale Wherefore pray unto thy Lord, and slay [the victims].
Transliterated Arabic Fasalli lirabbika wainhar
108:003
*
URL Pickthall Lo! it is #THY INSULTER# (and not thou) who is without
posterity.
Yusuf Ali For he who hateth thee, he will be cut off (from Future
Hope).
Shakir Surely your enemy is the one who shall be without posterity,
Sher Ali Surely, it is thy enemy who shall be without issue.
Khalifa Your opponent will be the loser.
Arberry Surely he that hates thee, he is the one cut off.
Palmer Verily, he who hates thee shall be childless.
Rodwell Verily whose hateth thee shall be childless.
Sale verily he who hateth thee shall be childless.
Transliterated Arabic Inna shani-aka huwa al-abtaru
I hope you did not mind my contributions. // well, somewhat ...
Nice to see you back Joubin. // Just passing through Saeid Jaan. It must be the Winds ....
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